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Kristi Noem's Execution of a Goat

Few people seem to be much outraged, sad or sickened about her account of killing an "uncastrated" goat. It is unclear just why she had this goat in the first place. It is the unneutered goat though, that she botched her first attempt to kill...because he smelled bad and did regular goat sort of things.

I've been knowing for a long time that goats are mischievous, even though I've rarely been around any. I have always heard that unneutered male goats have an odor that could be described as "rancid", when they are in rut. Having them neutered most always resolves this.

I understand that more people love dogs, and have loved [b]their[/b] dogs. The reasons she said she executed a young healthy dog are sickening. That she [b]did[/b] it is sickening and sad. So is her execution of a goat, though. and that is rarely mentioned.

Just a ramble, I guess.
Vin53 · M
You need 3 things to train a puppy:

Patience, a leash and a collar, and love.

ok, 4 things.

And treats. 5 things.
@Vin53 And a camera. Have to have a camera. So five things.
Carla · 61-69, F
@LordShadowfire paper towels. Six things.
Carla · 61-69, F
Goats are wonderful critters. I had a set of twins many years ago. Male kids. Neutered. I got them to graze. They were the most fun.
Smart. Playful. Loyal too.
Intact male goats go into rut. It lasts awhile. Being the biggest, most musty and urine soaked goat gets the girls.
What she did was monstrous. Both to the dog and goat.
No excuses. No reasons. Period.
Piper · 61-69, F
@Carla One of my dreams has always been to have a place where adopting some goats and maybe chickens, would be possible.
RuyLopez · 56-60, M
Bbq goat is delicious.
RuyLopez · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 Goat curry is also wonderful.
@RuyLopez Never had it.
RuyLopez · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 It can be very tender.
I don't condone how she went about it, but you're not telling the whole story. Noem lives on a farm - farmers have farm animals. The goat was aggressive and a danger to her young children at the time, which was 20 years ago. The dog was nuts and very aggressive...it killed neighbors chickens, bit people, etc. She felt the dog should be put down. I'm not wild about how she went about it. Would you still consider these "executions" had she had a vet euthanize them?
Piper · 61-69, F
@BizSuitStacy I don't even know the "whole" story as written by Noem in her book. All I've been able to find are excerpts of her account of executing the dog named Cricket...and the unnamed male goat. I acknowledge that of course some dogs [b]are[/b] aggressive, and can't be cured of that behavior. I believe the death sentence for such a dog, should always be the very last resort. It does not sound as if Noem even explored the options available, for the dog she dragged to a gravel pit and killed.

The goat was behaving like an uncastrated male goat. She had many options, glaringly obvious options, other than executing him in a fit anger.

If she had had a vet "euthanize" them, I'd consider the executions at least slightly more humane. Oh...and people who live on farms have farm animals? WOW, who would have [b]thought[/b]! 🙄
@Piper then why would you write, [quote]It is unclear just why she had this goat in the first place.[/quote]?
Piper · 61-69, F
@BizSuitStacy Because not everyone who lives on a farm, keeps goats. Surely anyone who [b]chose[/b] to have a goat or goats, ought to know things about them. Like the fact that uncastrated male goats, especially, tend to do the very things she described when in rut...and have an odor most would describe as quite unpleasant, for instance.
She doubled down on the dog story and said she's killed horses.
Piper · 61-69, F
@Pitchblue Yes, I know. To be fair, she said the 3 horses had been in "our family" for 25 years. Her killing of the horses [i]may[/i] have fit the actual definition of euthanasia.
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Piper · 61-69, F
@Pitchblue Yeah, I can understand that wondering. Clearly, she killed the dog and definitely the goat..in a fit of anger.
It's like how people will eat chicken and cow, but think it's immoral to eat horse.
Piper · 61-69, F
@BohemianBoo Yes, that thought certainly came to mind.
Ynotisay · M
I saw those animals as one in the same. Neither did anything wrong. It was pure, deadly human arrogance.
Vin53 · M
[quote]She could have given the goat away.[/quote]

Give it away,
Give it away,
Give it away now.
I for one wasn't aware that she was a serial animal killer. I knew about the dog, of course, because that's all anyone can talk about.
Kovid Kristi strikes again
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Piper · 61-69, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout It is [b]her[/b] story, that has sullied her name.
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Vin53 · M
Lamb is delicious. I won't touch veal though.
@msros nah, humans will remain barbarians until humans are extinct
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Carla · 61-69, F
@BlueGreenGrey i dont except that. I completely understand your distaste for hunting. What i take exception to is your casual way of stating that all hunters mistreat their dogs. That is blatantly untrue.
Ynotisay · M
@Carla I'm adamantly opposed to hunting of any kind, for a few reasons, but I agree with you. Hunters with working dogs develop a special bond. And it's not rooted in mistreatment. It's the opposite. It's giving the dog its best life.
What's worse for me are people with working dogs who don't work them. They get them for the wrong reasons. And the dog pays the price. That's not right.

 
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