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Since Columbia is private property…

As I followed the drama over the past week, the often repeated explanation about the police not going on campus was because Columbia was private property and the police had no authority to set foot on campus unless requested by Columbia administration, and since no request came the police had to remain off campus. Until … things got out of hand and some students or whoevers took possession of one of their buildings and fortified the doors.The administration then called the police. The police responded with overwhelming force, retook control of the building and arrested a number of students and whoevers.

The cost for that police response must be staggering. It likely included overtime hours for some, dozens of police vehicles and unique equipment that allowed them to gain entry via upper story windows.

Considering that Columbia was/is a privately owned area with its own non-public streets and sidewalks, and responsible for its own security, shouldn’t the cost for police intervention be the responsibility of the university and not the city of New York?
If you call the police to arrest a burglar in your home, should you pay for that because it's on your private property?
@NerdyPotato Yes, because you didn't seem redneck crazy enough to keep them off of your property to start with 🤪 (don't take this answer seriously)

Heartlander · 80-89, M
@NerdyPotato The repeated reference to the police not being allowed to enter the campus without permission made me question whether the campus was a separate community, like a gated community that has its own governance and isn't part of the adjacent or surrounding community. My greater metropolitan area is made up of 30+ jurisdictions where a few tiny communities contract with larger adjacent communities for police services. I have no idea how the cost of such services is billed, but it seems reasonable that the bill would be for services rendered based on actual cost for the service provider.
@Heartlander if there's some special agreement beforehand, that would make sense. It doesn't sound any different than your home though. Police can't enter there either without your permission, warrant or life threatening situation.
calicuz · 51-55, M
Interesting how our "black boot" police departments are really tough and abusive against students who they are sure are not carrying weapons, but can't muster up the courage to enter an active shooter situation when children are being murdered in their school. 🤷‍♂️
calicuz · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou

Then they should do away with their "brotherhood" mentality and show us through actions that Upholding and defending the Constitution and saving innocent children's lives is more important than their own lives. They took an oath, if they can't follow through with that oath then they need to resign or be forced to resign by the actual police who show bravery and the taking of the oath seriously. It's not about a paycheck, it's about a duty to "we The People."

I say this with no anger, malice or bitterness in my tone. I like you and I think we get along great, but that doesn't mean we can't disagree. 🙂
4meAndyou · F
@calicuz Yes, I disagree with you quite often...😂😂😂
calicuz · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou

I'm sure you do, but thanks for laughing at my silly jokes, it makes my comments worth it all. 😅🤗
4meAndyou · F
Yes. Resoundingly.
Pretzel · 61-69, M
no.
it is not an embassy. it is not a foreign country.

the state laws apply to that location as well.

the cops couldn't say they were trespassing unless the owners of the property or their employees said they were trespassing.
We certainly lack actual public institutions and public spaces.
Campuses can certainly be changed to make them stop functioning as substitute communities.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
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